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slam
03-14-2006, 11:22 PM
ooooh, isaac, how could you be sucked in?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4804334.stm

andikay
03-15-2006, 05:56 AM
It's easier to get sucked in if you have a ton of money.

Isn't Beck a Scientologist? :confused:

matty
03-15-2006, 02:12 PM
Yes, Beck is in fact one of THEM.

I'm still shocked. I feel like there must be something I'm not understanding about Scientology...

slam
03-15-2006, 02:51 PM
i'm not certain beck is a scientologist. i know his dad is. i think it came up when beck got real defensive of it during an interview one time, and basically said 'look, it really helped my dad, and whatever works for ya, ya know?'

that could be totally wrong. i'm too lazy at the moment, someone research this for us!

larryhead
03-15-2006, 04:48 PM
"In 10 years and over 150 episodes of South Park, Isaac never had a problem with the show making fun of Christians, Muslim, Mormons or Jews.

"He got a sudden case of religious sensitivity when it was his religion featured on the show."


Oh, so it's OK, as long as it's not YOUR religion.

Fucking hypocrite. :disgust:

the Wolf
03-15-2006, 06:17 PM
Scientology holds a very strange fascination for me. When I moved into my studio apartment two years ago, the previous tenant had been a member of the CoS (Church of Scientology). As a result, for two whole years I received all the official Church mail that would arrive for her. Some of the mailings were blatently advertisments for expensive "treatments" she would need to progress up the chart, or whatEVER they have. But some of the newsletters I saw were pretty disturbing. The CoS has headquaters on every continent and nearly every major metropolitan area. They make no bones about building a member base established as high up the ladder as possible. It's primarily a "religion" for the elite, who are really the only ones that can afford it. I've seen advertisements for copies of ONE of L Ron Hubbard's lectures priced OVER 1000 dollars. That's a G for a grainy copy of a 1968 lecture LRH probably gave at a library. And the sad bit is, people buy it. Or rather, people are TOLD to buy it... We've all heard about the insidious methods of thought manipulation and brain washing that Scientology is accused of; a justifiable accusation in my opinion. It's secretive by nature and employs methods of deliberate obfuscating that they take VERY seriously.

At the end of one of the pamphlets I got, there was a not-so-veiled threat to any member caught disparaging the "church." They mentioned litigation and some other consequences that I couldn't contextually understand. I got the chills when I started thinking about it. Was I receiving the previous tenant's Scientology mail because she hadn't given them her forwarding address?! I personally think she escaped, and for me, that just adds to the mystery. Obviously there's ALOT of material out there about every aspect of Scientology; the non-profit "Church" that rakes in billions of revenue a year with its "necessary" improvement sessions, testamonials of people who've had to fight for the release of family members, shady financial deals and investment schemes attributed to CoS higher-ups. The list goes on and on... But it was reading through some of their publications that gave me a sense for what this "church" is about. Money. Money that it bilks out of weak and spiritually vulnerable people.

So sorry, but now you know. Scientology. It amuses me. It sickens me. It gives me a rush of conspiratorial excitement. It also drives me to leave long-winded post that are dis-proportinate to the original thread.


:twocents:


So ANYWAY, Slam et al: this is what I found...

First, we need to know something about Scientology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology
Of interesting note is their Story of Creation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

After perusing the afore-mentioned links, it might be important to investigate some opinions of Scientology that are, shall we say, of a less-than-postive nature...
http://alley.ethercat.com/door/index.html
I found this on the site above. It takes a look at LRH's language trap.
http://alley.ethercat.com/xint/language.html


This is a good one too... It's called "The Clambake."
http://www.xenu.net/

Some mysterious Scientology related deaths...
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/

Sign your life and rights away to the "Co$"
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Scientology/ReleaseForms/Introspection.html

Scientology even has it's own soundtrack!
(With guest appearances by John Travolta, Leif Garrett, and Chick Corea...)
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/listen.htm


And FINALLY, this one is for you Slam - Beck and his link...
http://www.lermanet.com/beck/

slam
03-15-2006, 06:45 PM
thanks for the links, wolf, but the beck one isn't loading for me. i'll try again later.

sceintology's been discussed a few times before on B2P, as well:
http://www.boardtopieces.com/showthread.php?t=630
http://www.boardtopieces.com/showthread.php?t=172

the Wolf
03-15-2006, 07:08 PM
Thanks Slam! I hadn't seen either of those threads... Kind of makes my stuff look a little redundant. Oh well!

larryhead
03-15-2006, 07:26 PM
Thanks Slam! I hadn't seen either of those threads... Kind of makes my stuff look a little redundant. Oh well!

We had to let you find out the truth for yourself and to prove you aren't one of them. Congratulations, you have passed. :D

That's pretty weird about your former apartment tenant, I wonder if she was really trying to get out of the cult. Must be creepy getting their "official" brainwashing materials in the mail all the time.

Regardless, you should probably move in case they decide to drop by and have a little "chat" with you. :upsidedown:

mrjohnchimpo
03-15-2006, 07:43 PM
man, scientology is messed up. although it DOES read like a good science fiction novel. :D


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/South_Park_Xenu.jpg/200px-South_Park_Xenu.jpg

JVO
03-15-2006, 07:53 PM
Wolf: Your links are great!!!!

That article discussing Beck is very interesting. I always wondered how educated he was. guess now I know.

matty
03-16-2006, 02:32 PM
You guys! I have just joined the Church of Scientology, and let me tell you, it's REAL!! You'll never believe all the wonderful things I've seen! Let me tell you about it!

So Selma Hayek and I were having lunch at Spago's (so trashy, I know, but we were in our "civilian" disguises, Selma as Francesca Boobsalot and myself as Master Bone). Anyway, just as we were reprimanding the waitress for talking to us (so much for your tip, bitch!) Tom Cruise came up (in his disguise as Busta Nut) and made a pass at Selma! I was like, "Hellooooo, she's totally sitting with me," and Tom was like, "Okay, well, you wanna take it outside," and I went outside with him lookin' for a fight.

Two hours later, I was unloading my love rocket into Tom's throat when it hit me--what if the public finds out about this? I can't let the world know my deep, dark secret of giving hot celebrity studs the cream facial! It would ruin my career! Tom must have seen the look of uncertainty pass across my face, because just then he swallowed and said, "I know a way that we can get help. It will be like none of this ever happened!"

I was like, "Gee, Tom, I don't know." I knew he was going to try to get me to go to one of his Scientology shows, and I was still pretty burned from that Kabbala I went to with Madonna. (She'll get her tits out ANYWHERE!) But I went along anyway because he said he knew Isaac Hayes, and I've been craving some chocolate if you know what I mean.

Ooops! Look at the time! I've got to go to work to make money so I can advance up the spiritual ladder! Praise the Golden Muskrat! I'll finish this story later...

JVO
03-16-2006, 04:30 PM
You guys! I have just joined the Church of Scientology, and let me tell you, it's REAL!! You'll never believe all the wonderful things I've seen! Let me tell you about it!

So Selma Hayek and I were having lunch at Spago's (so trashy, I know, but we were in our "civilian" disguises, Selma as Francesca Boobsalot and myself as Master Bone). Anyway, just as we were reprimanding the waitress for talking to us (so much for your tip, bitch!) Tom Cruise came up (in his disguise as Busta Nut) and made a pass at Selma! I was like, "Hellooooo, she's totally sitting with me," and Tom was like, "Okay, well, you wanna take it outside," and I went outside with him lookin' for a fight.

Two hours later, I was unloading my love rocket into Tom's throat when it hit me--what if the public finds out about this? I can't let the world know my deep, dark secret of giving hot celebrity studs the cream facial! It would ruin my career! Tom must have seen the look of uncertainty pass across my face, because just then he swallowed and said, "I know a way that we can get help. It will be like none of this ever happened!"

I was like, "Gee, Tom, I don't know." I knew he was going to try to get me to go to one of his Scientology shows, and I was still pretty burned from that Kabbala I went to with Madonna. (She'll get her tits out ANYWHERE!) But I went along anyway because he said he knew Isaac Hayes, and I've been craving some chocolate if you know what I mean.

Ooops! Look at the time! I've got to go to work to make money so I can advance up the spiritual ladder! Praise the Golden Muskrat! I'll finish this story later...


:pokefun: :p :groucho: :wave: :lol:

slam
03-20-2006, 09:19 PM
the plot thickens:

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,188463,00.html

mrjohnchimpo
03-20-2006, 09:24 PM
man, that is some creepy shit. i'm gonna be looking over my shoulder for Scientologists from now on.

evildead
03-21-2006, 11:53 PM
It's easier to get sucked in if you have a ton of money.

Isn't Beck a Scientologist? :confused:
Beck claims to be a reformed Jew...here is the interview. Don't know how old the interview is...he could have converted in the past couple of years.

http://www.jvibe.com/realife/beck.shtml

Simolean2
03-29-2006, 03:41 AM
Yeah I dont get it, they've made fun of almost everything lol. Yet one epsiode of scientology and its all over.

Iam sure at some point everyone on the show has made fun of something they believe in and had to live with it for a higher cause...... making a funny as hell show.

mrjohnchimpo
03-29-2006, 04:15 AM
did anyone catch the latest south park where they resolved (well, sort of resolved) the chef thing? HILARIOUS!