Nation States

[Soul Queen]

007 and I have gotten on this website. Its a fictional world where you can create a nation. Within this nation you can vote on issues and slowly see your nation evolve.

I thought that JVO and slam may be interested in checking it out. Its a text based site, not graphics. It takes awhile to see your nation evolve. I find the issues that you vote are similiar to ones that are going on in the world. Note that its not extremely exciting. I get a kick out seeing what my nation is up to based on the issues I vote on.

My nation is the HOLY EMPIRE OF RASPBERRY SWIRLS. Both 007 and I are located in California. If you want to sign up it would be more interesting if we shared space in California. 007 is Slacklantis.

http://www.nationstates.net/25498/logout=1 This is the set-up menu.

[mrjohnchimpo]

this seems neat! anybody read the book?



here's mine:

The Theocracy of Code Monkey

"No zombies or sea monsters!"

http://www.schizocentral.com/images/nocommies.jpg


The Theocracy of Code Monkey is a tiny, devout nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct.
The large government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Religion & Spirituality, and Healthcare. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 21%. A small private sector is dominated by the Beef-Based Agriculture industry.
Crime -- especially youth-related -- is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Code Monkey's national animal is the capuchin and its currency is the sidekick.

[mrjohnchimpo]

moved to California region. buncha hippies around here.

[Soul Queen]

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/raspberry_swirls.jpg The Holy Empire of Raspberry Swirls

"I'm not your senorita!"


The Holy Empire of Raspberry Swirls is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate, cynical population of 395 million are ruled with an iron fist by the socialist government, which grants its people the freedom to do whatever they like so long as it doesn't involve getting richer than anybody else or challenging the government.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Education, although the Environment and Healthcare are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 98%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Book Publishing.
Untold millions of golden berriess are going into a new government-funded maternity leave scheme, schoolchildren have twice-weekly sex education classes, smoking is banned in public areas, and pharmacies close down as medicinal drugs are sold freely by the government. Crime is relatively low. Raspberry Swirls's national animal is the kangaroo, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the golden berrie

[Soul Queen]

Its pretty fun to check out how each nation is doing.

[mrjohnchimpo]

i checked around and my current description seems to almost be the standard starter description for my original options. it'll be neat to see how it changes.

[matty]

here's my new country, the Queendom of Snapsylvania!

The Republic of Snapsylvania is a tiny, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 5 million are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich. In their personal lives, however, citizens are relatively unoppressed; it remains to be seen whether this is because the government genuinely cares about its people, or if it hasn't gotten around to stamping out civil rights yet.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 67%, and even higher for the wealthy. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Woodchip Exports.

Crime is totally unknown. Snapsylvania's national animal is the shark, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the finger.

[Lori Burger]

My place:

The Most Serene Republic of Loribethcon is a tiny, environmentally stunning nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The large government juggles the competing demands of Healthcare, Social Welfare, and Education. The average income tax rate is 26%, but much higher for the wealthy. A tiny private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

Crime is moderate, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Loribethcon's national animal is the domestic housecat, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the diamond

[slam]

The Empire of Malocracy is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 6 million are rabid consumers, partly through choice and partly because the government tells them to and dissenters tend to vanish from their homes at night.

There is no government in the normal sense of the word; however, a small group of community-minded, corrupt, pro-business individuals devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Retail, Door-to-door Insurance Sales, and Trout Farming industries.

Elections have been outlawed. Crime is a serious problem. Malocracy's national animal is the snake, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the blood note.

[Soul Queen]

The Empire of Malocracy is a tiny, economically powerful nation, remarkable for its complete absence of social welfare. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 6 million are rabid consumers, partly through choice and partly because the government tells them to and dissenters tend to vanish from their homes at night.

There is no government in the normal sense of the word; however, a small group of community-minded, corrupt, pro-business individuals devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Income tax is unheard of. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Retail, Door-to-door Insurance Sales, and Trout Farming industries.

Elections have been outlawed. Crime is a serious problem. Malocracy's national animal is the snake, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the blood note.

Wow. For some reason I was expecting slam's to be a utopian paradise. :D

[Soul Queen]

Some other notes about Nation States. It may be more interesting if you join the UN. It is optional. I usually vote on 2 issues a day. Keeps the nation evolving at a more rapid pace. I think you can set as many as you want.

[matty]

The UN can suck it! What do I need them for?

I declare war on the Empire of Malocracy!!

*bomb bomb*

:horse::swordfight::raygun::sword::getyou::moon::k arate::nutkick::poke::anarchy::ninja:

[mrjohnchimpo]

yeah i don't like this part of the UN:

"(You can't just obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest, like real nations do.)"


Also, I read the war FAQ, matty. apparently officially you can't declare war but there is a whole unofficial trade/war forum somewhere.

[slam]

I declare war on the Empire of Malocracy!!

my populace of hardened criminals is going to ***ANNIHILATE*** your country of sniveling, social-welfared hippies.

Queendom of Snapsylvania (10/1/2007 - 10/1/2007)

how do we declare war, SQ?

[matty]

My country is full of anarchists. Kill us, we don't care. It's pretty awful of you to declare war on a totally "mind-your-own-business" country like us, though...

[matty]

Hm. It seems there is no way to actually declare a war.

Also, why are we all in stupid California when we could make up our OWN region???

[Lori Burger]

Hm. It seems there is no way to actually declare a war.

Also, why are we all in stupid California when we could make up our OWN region???

I'm in the East Pacific.

[mrjohnchimpo]

we don't all have to be in the same region, you can just add others to your dossier to keep an eye on them. but if someone creates a region for us, i'd probably join it.

here's the info to declare unofficial war/trades:

http://www.nationstates.net/images/nsarrow2.gifHow do I go to war against another nation? Or trade?

In one sense, you can't. NationStates doesn't include these things -- because it's a simple game, and because they would bias things in favor of militaristic and capitalist nations. One of the nice things about NationStates is that you can craft a nation into your idea of Utopia without having to worry about such pragmatic concerns as national defence.
Into the breach, however, steps the NationStates community, which has independently devised an entire system covering war, trade, and just about anything else you can think of. This takes place entirely on the forums (mostly in International Incidents), and is role-played.
Many people have asked about the possibility of a more sophisticated version of NationStates, with trade, military conflicts, and more. This does sound cool, but I haven't decided yet if I want to do that. It would be a lot of work, and I'd have to charge people to play it. But it's possible.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1235


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1230

[Soul Queen]

Sorry. I wasn't interested in a war aspect of the game. I use it as an amusing side item that I check on from time to time. Its a slow evolution.

you may get bored with it. I think its kind of amusing to see the nation grow and the little things that happen to it. i banned cell phone usage not too long ago. Ha ha ha.

[Lori Burger]

BTW, I put all of you on my dossier list. Is this just to check on the nations???

[mrjohnchimpo]

Sorry. I wasn't interested in a war aspect of the game. I use it as an amusing side item that I check on from time to time. Its a slow evolution.

you may get bored with it. I think its kind of amusing to see the nation grow and the little things that happen to it. i banned cell phone usage not too long ago. Ha ha ha.

yeah i upped to 2 issues a day after checking almost everything out on the site. one of the crazy things is checking out all the UN resolutions and appeals. there's tons of em!

maybe i'll get bored, but right now it seems cool and new, which is what i need to get through another day with minimum productivity. Thanks SQ! :thumbsup:

[mrjohnchimpo]

BTW, I put all of you on my dossier list. Is this just to check on the nations???

to me it looks pretty much just like a buddy/enemy list so you don't have to constantly search for them.

[matty]

I guess wars are declared in word only, it seems. You can encourage other countries to pick sides, declare boycotts, etc., but if I wanted to, say, unleash a wave of genetically engineered clones of Carol Channing with crab claws for hands and bulletproof exoskeletons, it would be impossible. For now...

Also, I have created a region: Land of the Bored. Please, join my region if you are so inclined.

[mrjohnchimpo]

matty, I don't want to know what this means, do I?

"Land of the Bored: our milkshake brings all the boys to the yard"

[matty]

Stop asking questions and just sign up, you! :biker:

[007]

Just moved to Matty's region.
You guys should join the UN & nominate ME as your delegate!
I will stand for corruption & anarchy!

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Side Notes -
The game is something fun to check on throughout the day, but can become repetitive as issues repeat after awhile. The cool thing is - after you reach a certain population, you can submit issues for circulation. I authored the banning of cell phones issue that SQ spoke of.

[Lori Burger]

Thanks for posting this thing: I love it!

And. I love that Matty's national animal, the dolphin, is frolicking in the lush forest

[matty]

Uhhhhh........

My national animal is the shark. Thanks. No wuss dolphins for Snapsylvania!

And thanks for joining our new region! As for the UN, in Snapsylvania we recognize the UN as a futile puppet show, designed to control us. They will all lick our boots like dogs!!

[mrjohnchimpo]

hey has anybody found out how they rank nations? is it some background scale?

i think i'm quickly turning into a clergy-run police state.

[007]

Here's a cool link I found awhile back -

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Category

Lots of good info.
Fun.

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By the way, my nation of 775,000,000 will crush you all!
You all only exist because of my 'cultural diversity' programs.:)
Hail Slacklantis!
:sumo::sumo:

[zero2056]

Count me in!


The Kingdom of Absentia Morales is a tiny, pleasant nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 5 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The tiny government devotes most of its attentions to Law & Order, with areas such as Social Welfare and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 5%. A robust private sector is led by the Pizza Delivery, Gambling, and Uranium Mining industries.

Crime is a serious problem. Absentia Morales's national animal is the flying pig and its currency is the avarice.

[mrjohnchimpo]

hooray! i became an Authoritarian Democracy!

"Not really a democracy, but a dictatorship pretending to be one. Citizens are prohibited from doing almost everything except voting, which they do timidly and conservatively."

[Soul Queen]

:DI find its kind of difficult to stay the same cateogry as you initially recorded yourself as. Its been difficult consistantly cutting out Political Freedoms. GO IRON FIST SOCIALISTS!!

[slam]

every time i'm presented with some kind of poitical decision, i ask myself, What Would Cheney Do?

[Lori Burger]

I am trying to run the nation as I really would. Is it ironic, then, that the children in my nation are running amok when I've worked with children for over 6 years?

[mrjohnchimpo]

I am trying to run the nation as I really would. Is it ironic, then, that the children in my nation are running amok when I've worked with children for over 6 years?

haha, that's funny :)

i'm trying to do the same, which is why i like each individual decision that i make so far, but overall, i'm not entirely sure about the general description...but what's neat is how accurately this portrays what probably really happens with the worldview of a country's policies.

[mrjohnchimpo]

does anyone know what happens when you dismiss an issue rather than legislating it?

i got one on whether or not to ban Harry Potter books. I don't want to ban them, but the way the other side is written i don't agree with either. has anybody dimissed one yet? i'm going to try it.

[Lori Burger]

does anyone know what happens when you dismiss an issue rather than legislating it?

i got one on whether or not to ban Harry Potter books. I don't want to ban them, but the way the other side is written i don't agree with either. has anybody dimissed one yet? i'm going to try it.

If you dismiss the issue, then really nothing happens, i.e., nothing changes in your nation.

[mrjohnchimpo]

i'm thinking of starting a hippie country and just let everybody do whatever they want. except businesses.

(in an attempt to further avoid work).

[matty]

My method has been anarchy. How to impose the least amount of rules on the population, and give them freedom to do whatever they want. Nothing is outlawed!

My ecomony imploded. Hmm.

[mrjohnchimpo]

yeah, for Code Monkey i had an issue about whether to mine in a forest to get at a rich uranium deposit.

the options were: 1 cut the whole forest down, 2 be a hippie, or 3
cut a small part of the forest down.

i chose 3 and now all of the sudden my environment is the on the brink of collapse and the precious capuchin monkey, our national animal, is going extinct. that's dumb.

[Soul Queen]

Well somehow I turned into the Libertarian Police State. Its hard to keep the Iron Fist Socialism going on. Guess I need to take away a few rights and add more social policies? Oh well.

Sometimes it does go to extreme. But its just a game.

[matty]

All major public areas are watched by police surveillance cameras, citizens can be frequently spotted going about their business stark naked, the tenet of free speech is held dear, and political activists are routinely executed.

Snapsylvania has it going ON!!! And I still hold onto my Iron Fist Socialist status. Boo yah!

[matty]

Woops. Spoke too soon--I just flipped over to "Corrupt Dictatorship."

:huh:

[mrjohnchimpo]

for my Code Monkey one, I said that we should use the blood of healthy prisoners to make up for a shortage. and got this:

and jails have become colloquially known as 'vampire houses'

in Hippie Morons, I allowed free speech:

and Hippie Morons's children are widely acknowledged as the most foul-mouthed in the region.


:D

[mrjohnchimpo]

I just banned all computing equipment in Code Monkey as well. I wonder how that's gonna work out. Heehee.

[mrjohnchimpo]

has anybody submitted an idea for an issue yet?

i was thinking that it would be cool to submit this one: making people stand according to height at concerts. the three options could be 1) do it, 2)don't do it, and then like a couple of strange ones like have a height limit for concerts, and cancel concerts all together.

not sure how i'd word it though.

also, Code Monkey now has this somehow:

The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

[mrjohnchimpo]

somehow both of my countries became Democratic Socialists even though i thought i've been making some pretty different decisions. that's interesting.

[mrjohnchimpo]

i'm still finding that no matter how different i try to make my two countries, they start looking the same after awhile. weird.

i'll probably get rid of Hippie Morons and turn Code Monkey into an evil military dictatorship (you know, by choosing all the "extreme" options). that's where i've really wanted to be heading.

[Soul Queen]

Its been awhile since I checked in. Today it sounds like Utopia!

The Holy Empire of Raspberry Swirls is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate population of 765 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, the Environment, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 100%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Book Publishing.
The arms industry is strictly regulated, Raspberry Swirls's educational system is the envy of many and regarded as a pinnacle of educational achievement, a government program is underway to revitalize Raspberry Swirls's beaches, and leather-clad individuals can be seen walking their slaves in public parks. Crime is totally unknown. Raspberry Swirls's national animal is the kangaroo, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the golden berries.

Well we will see about tomorrow...

[zero2056]

Its been awhile since I checked in. Today it sounds like Utopia!

The Holy Empire of Raspberry Swirls is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate population of 765 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, the Environment, and Social Welfare. The average income tax rate is 100%. Private enterprise is illegal, but for those in the know there is a slick and highly efficient black market in Book Publishing.
The arms industry is strictly regulated, Raspberry Swirls's educational system is the envy of many and regarded as a pinnacle of educational achievement, a government program is underway to revitalize Raspberry Swirls's beaches, and leather-clad individuals can be seen walking their slaves in public parks. Crime is totally unknown. Raspberry Swirls's national animal is the kangaroo, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the golden berries.

Well we will see about tomorrow...


You call a 100% tax rate Utopia???

Down with the Holy Empress Meta!!

[Soul Queen]

My nation is truly impressive! Who needs money when the country provides everything for you.

Besides I have Black Markets! Come on!

[mrjohnchimpo]

how does one cause a country to Cease To Exist? i can't find out where to do it.

[mrjohnchimpo]

aah, you have to just not log in for 28 days.

i'm going to move those 2 out to the general region and stop using them. prepare, Land of the Bored, for The Oppressed Peoples of the Iron-Fisted Monkey!

[mrjohnchimpo]

I know this is an old one, but I think I'm finally gonna get rid of my nation. most if not all people on here are no longer on it anyways.

It was fun at first, but gets repetitive after awhile...I don't think I've seen a new issue in weeks, they just keep repeating stuff. See ya Iron-Fisted Monkey.

[False Alarm]

most if not all people on here are no longer on it anyways.
doesn't that mean you won?

[Soul Queen]

Yeah. I kept mine, but then forgot about it for over 28 days. The site deletes your nation if you forget too long. I was one day late.

It was interesting but I agree that they do repeat question alot.

[mrjohnchimpo]

doesn't that mean you won?

yes.

[lainafair]

SOoooo...I've been NationStating for a while, mostly just on my own with a few very different nations...
recently decided to join the region Canada and check out what the UN was all about...
only to find.... on April 1st, what everyone thought was a prank - the UN was dissolved and replaced by the World Assembly.
Apparently the real UN presented NationStates with a Cease and Desist order!

Here is the story on Max Berry's (NationStates creator) website.

http://www.maxbarry.com/2008/04/02/news.html

Just thought I'd share!