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slam
12-03-2005, 01:47 AM
so LH and i were watching this show on tv the other day that went through the all the presidencies since the 30's or so and detailed how that administration had dealt with the issue of UFO's.

pretty interesting in and of itself, but what was more interesting was when we started thinking about who in the government is actually privy to all the countless government secrets. they specifically mentioned in the show that the CIA director knows most of the stuff, and actually only informs the president about certain topics on a 'need to know' basis. who determines what is needed to know? does the director actually know everything? he's just a political apointee as well... would they trust him with all of america's secrets? does that mean george bush sr. knows all? did he tell his secrets to jr.?

should the president know everything? should the director? should everyone, including us?

is there a secret room in the depths of the CIA filled with a bunch of cigar-smoking old white men who know everything, like in the X-Files?

007
12-06-2005, 04:25 AM
This is an excellent topic. I don't have much information to add, but I do believe that many things are kept secret from Americans for "their own good"-- like people can't deal with the truth. Granted, some people can't deal with the truth, but I am of the mind that the truth is much more powerful than the consequences of dealing with it.

I am sure that Bush Sr knew everything & that he passed all that info on to his son. The real question is : Why does this one "barely" politically elected official gain so much sensitive info? I mean is civilization as we know it going to crumble if UFO's are proven to exist? Or if JFK's assassin is revealed? (Well the latter is a bad example--for my own speculative reasons).

I think Slam's best point is : Who determines what is "needed to know"? Whoever this person is, obviously controls the US.

The government has evolved into such a complicated web of info that nothing is really "known" for sure and therefore, (most importantly) no one is to blame.

If you weave a complex enough web, nobody will be able to trace it back to you...

bubz_bluez
12-06-2005, 04:47 AM
if your refering to the masons.......... i think their is a few rich fat cats who do know too much........ i dont think the CIA director deserves to know everything........who knows if one man does know everything. i should hope not considering that none of us know anything but rummors

bubz

bubz_bluez
12-06-2005, 04:49 AM
If you weave a complex enough web, nobody will be able to trace it back to you...==007

i think thats a good point

bubz

bangg trimm
12-06-2005, 01:15 PM
well if we knew everything that was going on, we might get distracted from making money [for corporate CEOs]. that just doesn't make sense! why would we do that?

matty
12-06-2005, 02:31 PM
I know what's going on. You guys just couldn't handle it.

slam
11-11-2008, 02:56 PM
so bush's two hour meeting with obama yesterday got me thinking about this again. do you think bush sat down with obama and whipped out his alien communicator? did the lizard people who actually run the country reveal themselves to obama?

just hard to imagine what those two talked about for so long...

Ag Au
11-11-2008, 03:28 PM
Bush seems pretty good at chatting people up in a conversational way. Everyone always talks about how personable he is. So maybe if he kept it light and kept his hands to himself, he made it easy on Obama. Either that or Obama now has a secret microchip embedded behind his left ear...